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Don Schoewe
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# Posted: 12 Feb 2008 09:14
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Hi, All, In a letter of January 11,1536 Elector Johann Luther twice uses "GLIMPF".
In the first paragraph:"denn Ich wollt nicht gern, dass sie den Glimpf und Geschrei wider uns sollten davon bringen."
And in the second paragraph: "Aber Magister Philipps Glimpf wollt ich nicht gern hierin versehen haben."
I'm puzzling between "leniency" and "indulgence" and can't quite convey the sense. What do you think? Notice "nicht gern" in both sentences.

Don Schoewe
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# Posted: 12 Feb 2008 11:02
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It's fascinating in the above letter ML is responding to the questions of the Elector regarding Henry VIII's request for the theologians to give opinions on the marriages of Catharine of Aragon and Anne Boleyn. Anne was executed that very year (1536) under the charges of incest and adultery brought by Cromwell.

Don Schoewe
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# Posted: 13 Feb 2008 08:52
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Thomas Cromwell not the later,great Oliver.

farkasag
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# Posted: 26 Feb 2008 15:21
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The first line is translated as: daß die Engländer den Eindruck, als ob sie verachtet worden wären, mit fortnähmen und dadurch uns in schlechten Ruf und feindseliges Gerede brächten.,

I"m having a hard time parsing this--obviously "sie" refers to "die Engländer. But I think "Glimpff" must be "schlechten Ruf."

Don Schoewe
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# Posted: 27 Feb 2008 06:27
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Sounds like you made a good call with "schlechten Ruf" for "Glimpf" and that would go along with "Geschrei". Did you notice that Catherine of Aragon dies about the time of this letter (January 1536) and Anne Boleyn in June of the same year?

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